Shamans & Shame-ons

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Shamans & Shame-ons

by Al Carroll
Intro: Shamanism as a term used by anthropologists means any tribal or earth-based religion, or any that are not part of the world’s “major” religions. But shamanism as used by the New Age is a troubling mix of marketing angles, cultural biases, and outright fraud. That’s why anyone calling themseles “shamans” are commonly referred to as Shame-ons by American Indians.

The modern movement of would-be “shamans” got their start in 1980 when Michael Harner published The Way of a Shaman. Harner was seeking to avoid many of the pitfalls the New Age movement had fallen into such as exploitative leaders, unclear and unrealistic goals, incoherent, contradictory, or nonsensical beliefs that were widely mocked by most of the public, blatant abuse and exploitation of tribal peoples and beliefs, and a complete lack of credibility with either academia or the public. In all of these goals, Harner and the rest of the “shamanism” movement have utterly failed. Many of the most disreputable New Age leaders such as Lynn Andrews and Ed McGaa sensed the marketing potential and simply adopted the “shaman” pose. Harner’s methods were little different from the New Age in his assumptions that one could easily learn methods that take decades to master among tribal traditionalists in a short time. Even his “advanced” seminars only last three days and he is clearly engaged in a highly profitable enterprise as much as an attempt to form a new spirituality, exactly the same as the New Age. Harner and the other would-be “shamans” also make the same mistakes of the New Age in trying to homogenize tribal traditions worldwide and deny their diversity and important differences by lumping several thousand belief systems together. Harner pretends one can master elements that are supposedly common or universal (“core” shamanism in his lingo) to all. The supposed commonalities of “shamanism” are largely superficial or even self-delusion. For example, many would-be “shamans” falsely claim the sweat lodges used by some American Indian groups are allegedly a “core universal shamanic” practice. They allege the Romans and Celts also used sweat lodges. In fact, both those groups used saunas with no spiritual aim or practice involved. Not even all American Indian groups use the sweat lodge. Finally, Harner and the rest of the would-be “shamans” are no different in exploiting both tribal peoples and western seekers of spiritual truths. To the former, shame-ons deceptively misrepresent their traditional beliefs and try to subjugate those beliefs to their western individual needs. The latter, shame-on leaders use for cash, to boost their own egos, and in some cases sex, either by trickery or by force, from their hapless followers. Many New Age people have in fact simply taken on the shamanism label without missing a beat. Anyone seeking to understand native spiritual beliefs is far better off looking to the writing of such noted native authors as Vine Deloria Jr. or Wilma Mankiller, or anthropolgy, than to self-designated “shamans.”

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Panarion of Epiphanius of Salamis, Book 1

The Panarion of Epiphanius of Salamis
A Treatise Against Eighty Sects
Three Books

Book I
(Sects 1-46)

Based on the translation
Frank Williams
(Published 1987-2009) Epiphanus against the Archontics

Oysters ~ Beware the Walrus ~

For many in the ‘Baby Boomer’ generation, the Beatles were not just a fantastically popular band, but a symbolic representation of what was best about the era of their youth. The Beatles stood for Love, and Freedom, and Peace; and they stood against the extremes of the Cold War; that is, for common sense as opposed to either extreme Communism or mindless consumerism and capitalism. The Beatles were the polar opposite of Lyndon Johnson, and Richard Nixon; they were the quintessential voice of the civil rights movement, and the anti-war movement, and the Woodstock Generation (even though they had officially disbanded before Woodstock took place.)

However, even in their heyday, not everyone was equally impressed with the Beatles. Some were distressed by their rejection of Christianity, and their openly expressed alliance with Eastern religions. The Beatles’ work was also widely interpreted as encouraging the use of dangerous and addictive drugs, much to the dismay of the wiser & more socially prudent parents of the “flower children”.

Today, the debate rages on, as fundamentalist Christians (in particular) have increasingly noticed occult and even Luciferian messages in the Beatles’ music and imagery. While we see this primarily as a contrived false dialectic pitting fundamentalist Christianity (a bankrupt religious relic) against Satanism (another bankrupt fundamentalism), our purpose in writing this blog post is to look more deeply into the true purposes and the true alliances that the Beatles brought to the table.

read on at the link above 🙂

Updated: Joseph Atwill interview on Talk Now Radio ~ “Caesar’s Messiah” and “The Jesus Myth” ~ Timothy Freke Video



Royce Holleman interviews Joseph Atwill about his research and his book “Caesar’s Messiah ~ The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus”

About the guest
Joseph Atwill spent his youth in Japan where he attended St. Mary’s Military Academy. The school was run by Jesuits so removed from the events of the modern world that they did not even consider shutting it down during World War II, and taught a curriculum that had not changed since the eighteenth century. Joseph Atwill describes that, “The majority of every one of my school days was spent studying Greek, Latin and the Bible, which for some reason I found fascinating.”

After studying computer science in college, Atwill began working with one of the most renowned programmers in the world, David Ferguson. David had been granted the first two patents ever issued in computer software. Over the next twenty years, between 1975 and 1995, David Ferguson and Joseph Atwill started a series of companies including Ferguson Tool Company and ASNA. “After selling my interests in our companies to investors in 1995, I returned to my earlier interest; the origins of Christianity,” Atwill says of this time period.

Atwill continues, “Though I had drifted away from the Catholic faith, my study of Christianity never stopped. Over the course of my life I had read perhaps six or seven hundred books relating to the historical Jesus and early Christianity, but none of them left me feeling like I really knew anything about how the religion began or its founder.” Atwill contends that the more he studied Christian origins the more he saw the question of how the religion began as an open one. Atwill held this position in spite of the fact that in the popular mind, and in the minds of most scholars, Christianity began as a movement of lower class followers of a radical Jewish teacher in the 1st century CE.

Says Atwill, “I did not share in this certainty.” What contributed most to his skepticism was that at the exact time the followers of Jesus were purportedly organizing themselves into a religion that urged its members to “turn the other cheek” and to “give to Caesar what is Caesar’s”, another Judean sect was waging a religious war against the Romans and seeking a Messiah who would lead them militarily. Atwill continues, “It seemed implausible to me that two diametrically opposite forms of messianic Judaism would have emerged from Judea at the same time. So the Dead Sea Scrolls became of such interest to me that I began what turned into a decade-long study of them.” Like others, Atwill was hoping to learn something of Christian origins in the 2,000 year old documents found at Qumran. To assist in his understanding of them, Atwill began studying the history of the era.

It was then that Joseph Atwill came across the key that led to his discoveries. “While reading Josephus’ War of the Jews, and his account of Titus’ destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE,” Atwill recounts, “I noticed some curious parallels. At first I could make no sense of the parallels between Titus’ campaign and Jesus’ ministry. So I tried to look at the Gospels with fresh eyes, as if I had never seen them before, giving up any preconceived notions about what they meant.” This perspective resulted in the discoveries Atwill presents in Caesar’s Messiah and his follow-up book, Shakespeare’s Secret Messiah. A Roman imperial family, the Flavians, had created Christianity, and, even more incredibly, they had placed a literary satire within the Gospels and War of the Jews to inform posterity of this fact.

About the book

Was Jesus the invention of a Roman emperor? The author of this ground-breaking book believes he was. “Caesar’s Messiah” reveals the key to a new and revolutionary understanding of the origin of Christianity, explaining what is the New Testament, who is the real Jesus, and how Christ’s second coming already occurred. The clues leading to these startling conclusions are found in the writings of the first-century historian Flavius Josephus, whose “Wars of the Jews” is one of the only historical chronicles of this period. Closely comparing the work of Josephus with the New Testament Gospels, “Caesar’s Messiah” demonstrates that the Romans directed the writing of both. Their purpose: to offer a vision of a “peaceful Messiah” who would serve as an alternative to the revolutionary leaders who were rocking first-century Israel and threatening Rome. Similarly, “Caesar’s Messiah” will rock our understanding of Christian history as it reveals that Jesus was a fictional character portrayed in four Gospels written not by Christians but Romans. This Flavian Signature edition adds Atwill’s latest discoveries of numerous parallel events in sequence which ultimately reveal the identity of the true authors of the Gospels.
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Also “The Jesus Myth” ~ Timothy Freke





Timothy Freke — Bestselling author and internationally respected authority on world spirituality is a featured scholar in the film “Caesar’s Messiah:The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus”.
Tim has an honours degree in philosophy and is the author of over thirty books that have established his reputation as a scholar and free-thinker. He is best known for his groundbreaking work on Christian Gnosticism with his close friend Peter Gandy, including The Jesus Mysteries, which was a top 10 best-seller in the UK and USA, and a “Book of the Year” in the UK Daily Telegraph. In recent years he has articulated his own “lucid philosophy” in The Laughing Jesus, Lucid Living, and How Long is Now? He has appeared in the documentaries Who’s Driving the Dreambus?, Secrets of the Code, and Time Machine: Beyond the Da Vinci Code. Created by Fritz Heede
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When Atwill published Caesar’s Messiah, he was concerned that his work not be seen as anti-Christian, but rather that it would help Christians as well as others to see how Christianity was manipulated by its elite creators for their own benefits. However, Atwill would be horrified if his work should ever be misused as a tool for those who would perpetuate the cycle of religious hate and revenge perpetrated by some of the various sects of Christianity as well as other religions. On the contrary, his hope is that humanity, by understanding the origins of these ancient wounds and ancient hatreds, can learn to overcome them — and that the people (regardless of their ethnic background or religious beliefs) can achieve the benefits of a more functional democracy that transcends the cycle of violence and genocide.”

Caesar’s Messiah Documentary with Joseph Atwill

“Mysteries of The Gospel:  Who Was Jesus? Christianity Origin & The Roman Empire”

Thanks to Documentaries Unlimited

Manufacturing the Deadhead ~ Atwill and Irvin

Manufacturing the Deadhead:

A product of social engineering…

By Joe Atwill and Jan Irvin

May 13, 2013

Version 3.7, May 17, 2013

In 2012 Jan Irvin made an important discovery. In the course of re-publishing The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross by the Dead Sea Scrolls scholar John Allegro,[1] Irvin had been researching the letters of one of Allegro’s most prominent critics, Gordon Wasson, at various university archives (including Princeton, Yale, Columbia, Dartmouth, and the Hoover Institute at Stanford) when he came across primary documents–letters actually written by Wasson–showing that he had worked with the CIA.[2] Read on…..

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